Apple Sidecar is a game changer for artists

now that there’s this, can team Astropad finally make a windows version?

Apple Sidecar pretty much makes Astropad for the Mac useless.


We still don’t know how it will work, Astropad gestures are far better, even from a Cintiq that also have touch gestures, translation, rotation, zoom in and out like an iPad app but running in the Mac, customization for pencil pressure, keyboard shortcuts built in the screen for remote use, we need to see if that is going to happen in apple side.

i get that. but the ipad itself has amazing gestures. it’s a safe assumption that it will be incorporated into it.

I said Apple could take this all down in one update and I was hoping it would end this subscription grab! Thank you Apple, GAME OVER!


Astropad would still be essential to artists using 10.14 and older. I might be wrong but Sidecar is only available in the latest MacOS, no?

possibly. but it’s kind of bad business and unsustainable to only support old hardware, no? eventually people will upgrade…

And what to say for those paying the $80 subscription. Will they be wanting their money back?

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if they have a mac that can support Catalina, they’d definitely not be renewing Astropad studio…

this is why it’s beneficial to have a Windows version. Astropad is an awesome product that’s become useless since it’s now a free feature on the one OS platform they support.

Still need Astropad for those that use older Macs.
Not all Macs can run Mojave or Catalina.
Also, SideCar may not work with older iPad or iPad Pro models.
I am in the older Mac, older iPads/iPad Pro category.
I have a feeling I will still be needing to use Astropad for some time to come.


I don’t have deep pockets.
Have not purchase a new Mac in years and haven’t purchase any new iDevices in over three years.
And can’t afford to spend cash on updating all my expensive design software any longer, either.
I use still use the one-time pay Astropad Standard as I am still using on older Mac OS for my everyday creative work.
I haven’t updated my version of Astropad on my Mac or iPads in over two years as I need the version of Astropad currently on my iPad Pro to still work with the older Mac OS I am still using.
Still see Astropad as a still working option.

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You don’t get your money back from the App Store on subscriptions. I remember when I re-subscribed to SketchBook Pro, two months later they made it free, and I was SOL. They just don’t refund. Period.

While I figured Apple would do this sooner or later, I certainly have no glee for whatever this ends up meaning for the Astropad team; I’ve used the product in the past and have enjoyed it. That being said, I would still love to use Astropad with my personal Windows system. Macs are getting expensive enough that it makes much more sense to spend on a solid Windows system for me (why spend over $2000 on a Mac Mini with the specs I’d like when I can spend that same amount on a reasonably powerful HP plus a cheap tablet monitor)?

As it stands, I use Standard only @ the moment (as my work Mac has a work-issued smaller Cintiq attached), but if I could use my iPad Pro and my Windows system together, I’d gladly shell out for Astropad Studio. It costs $72 per year for Clip Studio Paint directly on the iPad. If this were available on Windows, I could cancel that annual subscription and for about $8 a year more, I’d be able to use both my Windows editions of CSP EX and Adobe CC. I could create pages/do professional design work from my couch while watching movies with my wife.

I can dream, at least…

So the OS just announced and not due until the fall has some beta issues? Shocker! I’m sure there will be 0 changes in sidecar from beta to final release. Wow! The only smoke seems to be coming from what your smoking and Astropad’s subscription base. Cheers!

So I’ve used Sidecar now and while it’s great for extending your desktop, it seems like that’s all it’s good for. As an illustrator who uses Photoshop… am I the only one who’s not impressed? Sure, it can be done, but it’s clumsy and frustrating to use. Luna has WAY less latency, performing basic tasks like rotating/panning the canvas to paint feels natural. Not as fluid as while I’m using Procreate, but IMO Luna still has much value to me when I use it as a Wacom replacement. I’m running a 2016 MBP and I hope the team hasn’t given up developing and pushing to evolve Astropad Studio to decrease latency.

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I recently did the updates =).

I was curious about the new feature “sidecar” in Mac OS, i wanted to do a comparison between Astropad Studio and Sidecar.

And i still like Astropad more: easier setup, better customisation, works with keyboard connected to iPad, stroke color - sidecar also has some nice features for the overall workflow (open browser tabs or documents), but the setup has some requirements.

I tried out Photoshop and CSP a few days ago; paintbrush lines in Photoshop seem to be jittery as can be regardless of tweaks (at least on my end), and while line drawing in CSP is smoother, the pressure needed to get the lines I want is significant. I’m only using Astropad Standard, and I’m much more happy with the quality of line making in it than I am in Sidecar at the moment. There might be some tweaks I can make to the setup…but I kind of use Astropad because I don’t really have to tweak anything.

I’ve just invested in Astropad Standard, so just wanted to say, as a new customer I hope Astropad continues and I’ve not flushed my money down the drain!
From what I’ve seen Sidecar has to offer, it’s very nice but I’d like more control with gestures - which I believe Astropad give me from what I’ve read and seen.

While I saw Sidecar on WiFi mentioned in one review, it appears to me that Sidecar can only be used when connected to USB, which gives Luna another advantage. I was close to cancelling my Luna order, but after receiving and trying it for a few hours now, I may opt to stay on.

One thing that baffles me, though (and I may have to take this to its own thread), is that I cannot get my Apple Pencil 2 (on iPad Pro 2018) to control anything…I have the newest Luna app running on my MBP 2018 and Luna USB-C plugged into it, the iPad Pro set up as a separate screen, everything displaying fine, and I can drag windows to the iPad with my mouse, but when I take my Pencil to the iPad screen I can do nothing…no dragging of windows, no brush control in a Photoshop canvas that I dragged to my iPad…nothing.

I must be missing something really simple here?

I have an older MacbookPro (late 2014) and it’s fantastic. It’s actually amazing how well it has served me and continues to serve me, but while it can run Catalina, it does NOT support Sidecar. I’m forced to go with Astropad Standard to connect my Ipad Pro. (I refuse to get any subscriptions. If Standard wasn’t available I’d simply opt out or suffer with my big ugly Cintiq21UX with it’s terrible software support).

Catalina’s Sidecar will eventually mean that Astropad will have a dwindling number of users and therefore its business model will become unsustainable …one day. I haven’t started using Standard yet, but now that I know Sidecar isn’t an option for me I just hope that I can use Standard for as long as I’m able to. I wish Sidecar worked for me, but it doesn’t. Thanks to Astropad I have another option at least.