Astropad dumping third party stylus supoort by year’s end


#1

This really bites, team!
It looks as if I am one of the small minority Astropad users that still like using my choice of third party stylii, the Adonit Pixel stylus, with Astropadand and my iPad Pro.
I have not had any real vexing issues for the last 2-1/2 years of using this stylus with Astropad and has been working/playing pretty well with Corel Painter and for the most part with my older versions of Adobe Photoshop and AutoDesk SketchBook.
I have A LOT of apps the Adonit Pixel is compatible with that I use everyday with my iPad Pro and it still performs very well for me.
Both pressure and palm rejection with many of the current compatible apps is good to pretty good with this stylus.
Adonit makes far better Bluetooth smart stylii than Wacom ever has for the iPad/iPad Pro.
Wacom sucks at making a good Bluetooth iPad stylus.
I am very sad and disappointed in this eventuality.
Ålmost as upset as I was when Astropad decided to go the perpetual monthly subscription/“CONscription” pricing model!
I can’t even use the Pro version because it uses a newer Mac OS than I am using/need to use and the Pro version is Apple Pencil ONLY, too!
Just for the record, when Astropad got first introduced in the iOS App Store in 2015, I paid your initial asking price of $49.99!
You guys remember THAT!

The Apple Pencil has a lot of shortcomings I feel it is NOT a good fit for me and I suspect for some of the other minority third party stylus users, also.
Since this is NOT an Apple Community forum, I am going to list MY grievances here about the state of the current design of the Apple Pencil.

I, personally, do not like the whole Gestalt/industrial design/ergonomics of the Apple Pencil.
Hate the smooth, slippery and cheaply feeling plastic material.
Don’t like the weight/heft of the Apple Pencil.
Do not like the thinner barrel diameter ( I am used to the wider diameter barrels on other third party stylii as I am used to drawing with wider diameter marker pens).
Don’t like that the Apple Pencil doesn’t have the true hexagonal, anti-roll shape of a “real” pencil or mechanical pencil.
Don’t really like its unnecessary length.
Do not like the really bad and kludgey way the Pencil charges.
Not even a built in pencil clip (where the silver band is on the Apple Pencil would have made an ideal place for a built in pencil clip.
The Apple Pencil along with the smart keyboard all feel rushed and like an afterthought in the overall designs of these accessories.

Here is another BIG flaw for you Apple Pencil users out there .
If your Apple Pencil sits around unused and not kept charged up for more than a few weeks, or so, OR LONGER, then the battery in your Apple Pencil WILL fail and will be dead and you will have to purchase another brand new Apple Pencil.

FYI and something Apple never divulges to it potential iPad Pro/Apple Pencil customers/users unless the potential customer/user is smart enough to ask about.

Due to the “always on an active/stanby” nature of the Apple Pencil and, also, due to its very tiny rechargeable Li-ion battery (smaller than the eraser head on a REAL pencil), the Apple Pencil needs to be constantly charged up to some significant charge level ALL THE TIME, even when not using the Pencil for prolonged periods of time.
The Apple Pencil needs to be kept charged to a minimum of 5-10% all the time.
If the Apple Pencil battery is allowed to drain down to 0% and allowed to stay in that flat condition for more than a few weeks, or so, OR EVEN LONGER, that very tiny little Li-ion battery is too small to keep at a 0% state for a long period of time and it will fail and the Apple Pencil will be dead and you may have to “pop” for another $99 Apple Pencil, once again!

These are my issues with Apple’s pencil and why I refuse to purchase and use one.
I have been patiently waiting for Apple to update the design and functionalities of the Apple Pencil for quite some time to no avail.


#2

Sorry guys but this just comes over as some lame excuse to double dip your customers (soon to be EX) making them purchase another version of your software.

I Have had no issues with my adonit stylus and paid more for it than what the Apple pencil costs! JUST to be able to use your software! now you say that dropping support.

Thanks for the Zero support guys! and good luck with your new model.

I for one will now look into other options.


#3

Gotta agree. You sucked people in for what has been a very good product by promoting third-party styluses, now you trash them and dump them. Gee, I’d never heard of an Adonit stylus until you told me about it. So, I guess I should toss it and buy an Apple Pencil. Oh, but wait, I have an older iPad that the Apple Pencil doesn’t like.
I’ll be only too happy to review Astropad and warn prospective users to not count on you. I should have stuck with Wacom tablets.
Fuck you very much.


#4

Apparently this sux… I use an iPad mini 2 with Astropad and Adonit Pixel, to use as a graphics tablet when on the road with my Macbook, and have no power port to use my standard Cintiq(not the one with the built in windows PC), since it relies on plugged in directly in the mains.
However I am having plans to get an iPad pro in the future… but now I feel I am forced into getting the iPad Pro immediately… instead of casually .


#5

Dear astropad devs,

About 2 months ago I was able to save up for a stylus (Wacom bamboo sketch) to use with my iPad Air 2. It’s the only stylus that gets proper pressure sensitivity with it. I got this iPad years ago before considering art and animation as something serious. So I’ve never been able to afford an iPad Pro. The Wacom works well for what i use it. Finally just 3 weeks ago I was able to get money for astropad. I was able to use astropad with toon boom harmony and that actually worked well with the smooth settings up to about 46%.

I do all this because I can’t afford a cintiq and I can’t afford an iPad Pro/pencil. Most of the money I have to spare goes to paying my toon boom subscription which I use to learn and practice animation. Now yesterday I open astropad to continue my animation studies and find that I might as well use my finger because the pressure sensitivity is gone with this version. Consider this. I paid for your app, which is quite expensive compared to others in the app store, because it enabled me to use my iPad Air 2 as a budget drawing tablet with good quality. I had no trouble with wobbly lines because toon boom has smoothing. Everything worked nicely. But I was only able to use your app for 3 weeks. 3 weeks!!! All because you’re pushing the Apple Pencil on us in hopes that we buy the astropad studio version. I’m not one for profanity but that’s a dick move. I really wish I could get my money back. The main reason to own your app is gone. Even the display has become extremely pixelated compared to what it was. If we have a stylus that’s not the Apple Pencil, it means we either don’t like apple’s stylus or we have an iPad that doesn’t support it. That means there is no choice but astropad standard for us if we want to use our iPad as a drawing tablet. If we had an Apple Pencil I’m sure most of us would just get astropad studio. So now you’re just alienating your customer base for astropad standard.

This is extremely greedy, awful, and just wrong. Here’s why it’s wrong: what if you’re like me and you bought the app not so long ago because it meant you don’t have to spend upwards of $1000 for a new iPad or a cintiq. Now suddenly, this app is completely useless. It really should be criminal or fraudulent at least. You think this makes me want to buy astropad studio??? With a new iPad?? With Apple Pencil?? If I buy something like that you can bet I’m not going to buy astropad studio. I’ll just continue using the mobile solutions being offered at the time in hopes that TVPaint comes to the iPad as it came to android (and is being made available for free).

I’m extremely disappointed. I feel like you guys robbed me. Astropad isn’t just a $5 app. It’s $30. That price should guarantee satisfaction. That’s why i bought it. It never crossed my mind that an app so expensive would pull this off to try and manipulate its buyers into buying new equipment and new more expensive software.

Shame on you. You want more people to buy your studio app? Lower the price or don’t make the Apple Pencil a requirement but don’t take out support for other styluses after promising said support.


#6

@ Ricardo Franco,
I paid $49 when Astropad first made it to the iOS App Store in 2015.
And back then, I was using an iPad 3 with a Bluetooth Adonit Jot Touch w/Pixelpoint, which I still own, also.
So, you can only imagine how P.O’ed I feel.
I just think Astropad devs are just going after the professional artist/illustration markets, now and just ignoring part-time professionals, amateur and hobbyist artist/illustrators and anyone using Astropad with older iPads.
Just very disappointing what these guys are doing.
They will lose all their previously paying customers. That’s all.
The devs probably do not care about all their previous paying customers, anyhow.
I wiil just have to avoid updating Astropad when they officially issue the update stating that third party stylus supports ends and not update to that version.


#7

I think they already started cutting support. My Wacom bamboo sketch doesn’t have pressure sensitivity anymore.


#8

Ricardo,
I don’t think the Astropad devs would announce this in this current update and then in said same current update, start removing stylus support.
They may start doing this in future updates down the road, hopefully the update notes will reflect this eventual third party stylus removal, but I would not think the devs would start the third party stylus removal with this current update.
Have you tried simply doing a hard reset of your iPad by holding down both the Home and sleep/wake buttons simultaneously until your iPad goes to black and restarts with Apple logo, then release the buttons?

I, myself had to roll back Astropad to the last previous updates on both my iPad and Mac because the Mac companion app now requires OS X 10.11 El Capitàn ( instead of OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks) as a minimum Mac OS, now.
I am unable, due to legacy software reasons, move to this current version of Astropad because I still need to use OS X 10.9.5.
I still use a version of iTunes that still saves apps.
So I keep some copies of all my critical iOS and Mac OS software.
So, I was able to roll back to Astropad iOS and Mac versions back to version 2.2.5 and Mac version 2.3, which is still compatible with iOS Astropad version 2.2.5.

If you are as smart to keep older backup copies of software, or at least, the previous working versions of that software, you could do the same thing that I did and roll both previous Astropad versions back to their previous versions on both iPad and Mac.