Apple rumors "Cintiq-like" features


#1

So I just read something pretty interesting. Theres a rumor that Apple is planning on adding “Cintiq-like” integration for the iPad Pro. I don’t know how I feel about that, I like Astropad and the updates they’re consistently bringing. What does everyone else think about it?


#2

I’m getting fed up with paying $8 a month to use Astropad Studio, so I’d welcome anything Apple could do to help me do away with that. Paying almost as much a month as I pay for Photoshop is ridiculous.


#3

Almost as much as you pay for Photoshop? How much do you pay, if you don’t mind me asking?


#4

I’m on the $10 a month Adobe CC Photography plan. I quit using Illustrator and switched to Affinity Designer. It was absurd to pay $50 a month just to use to those two apps.


#5

Lucky, I’m paying $20 a month for Photoshop. Plus the $8 a month for Astropad. Art is expensive.


#6

You must have chosen the per-app plan instead of the Photography plan. Either that or you are not on contract and paying month-to-month. They must achieve greater economies of scale with Photoshop than any other app they sell. They had to fashion the Photography plan to placate photographers, who were NOT going to pay $50 a month when they didn’t care about any of the apps in the rest of the CC suite. With the Photography plan you get both Photoshop and Lightroom, plus access to Typekit fonts.

I don’t use Photoshop for digital drawing or painting anymore, just photo manipulation and creating photo montages. I could just use my Intuos Pro 4 for that stuff. Now that there is Procreate and Clip Studio Paint EX for the iPad Pro, I won’t really need Astropad anymore. See, right here I’ve sort of talked myself out of it.

And yes, Art is expensive, especially considering most artists are poor. It’s mostly a niche market for firms like Astropad and Adobe, as they are targeting the upper echelon. They’ve got to make money somehow.


#7

any chance you can post that link? i’d like to read this myself.


#8

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/04/07/apple-could-soon-let-you-use-ipad-pro-with-your-mac-as-a-cintiq-style-drawing-tablet/


#9

I welcome this experience, can you provide a link to the rumour please?


#10

Here are some thoughts, apple allow app developers to give a free demo version to the public, provided in exchange for a monthly payment plan.

Outright purchase of an app, is disallowed as a demo download.

This maybe rumour ?

So how much would all pay for a download of Astropad as a one off ?


#11

Here’s what’s wrong:

Astropad already charged us for the original Astropad. Then they rewarded our loyalty with a $7.99 a month subscription.

The Photoshop-only plan costs $9.99 a month. Procreate is a one-time charge of $9.99 – you don’t need Astropad for that. Clip Studio Paint EX for iPad is $8.99 a month after a free six-month trial – again, no Astropad needed. There are also apps like Concepts, Morpholio Trace, Sketchbook Pro IOS, etc. Digital artists have more options now.

Nearly $100 a year for Astropad Studio? Sorry, but at that price I’m going to find a way to get away from it.


#12

I posted a link already. I did, however, notice that its a relatively old rumor that hasn’t gained much traction since it was originally posted.

I don’t know how that “Cintiq-like features” comment they made in the link actually related to the patent mentioned in the link.

I guess we’ll have to wait until this summer to see what actually happens. Which makes me hesitant to buy the Luna Display, I don’t want to buy something that Apple could possibly just implement themselves.


#13

Thank you Danny for the link which I have just read through, interesting ideas.

6 months ago I ask in the Apple store if I may buy something to extend the screen of say a lap top onto the iPad. As in maybe use an extended view in Final Cut, with iPad and laptop side by side.

Store said interesting idea, but no this is not possible for now.

So really I would have thought cast screen to ipad from laptop, desk top, just part of the norm for the ISO and desktops mac world.

However this was not the case, hence I bought Astropad, which would cover some of the areas I needed for work.

Drawing on a screen which customer can see on skype share screen, requires a lap top, iPad. Generally I do this all on a desktop and Wacom tablet.

So paying a monthly fee for developers to extend the app Astropad to provide better services is quite welcome. Better business idea so as to implement new ideas.

Where as a one off payment great, say an update is available, after a original purchase, then you pay some more for the update. This gives some choices, where as a monthly fee is only going to work if many tow the line.


#14

Honestly folks don’t go waiting on Apple to get interested in the ‘pro’ market until they actually SHOW some interest (and I don’t mean a $15k all in one imac, an un-upgradable cylinder mac pro OR even unsubstantiated rumors based on …what?).

Tethering an ipad pro to a mac SHOULD have been one of the FIRST things Apple did if it was interested in the ipad being a serious content creation rather than consumption device…you know a ‘pro’ device.

I gave up on Astropad once it went subscription and bought the Wacom Cintiq pro 16 instead which wasn’t that much more expensive and is a better un-compromised/native experience which will still likely run well into the future and at no extra ongoing cost (until wacom stop making drivers).

The ipad pro having a built in non-removable battery tells you a little something about how often Apple intends you to make a re-purchase, the Astropad subscription on top of that makes you start doing some longer term ‘cost analysis’ which came up short for my needs.

I really admire what Astropad are doing taking the ball that Apple dropped but the ongoing price just pushed me towards buying ‘THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB’ instead which wasn’t that much more expensive and seemed like a better option than buying a driver in permanent beta…sorry ‘ongoing development costs’ (Don’t even get me started on the new IT model of ‘renting’ vs building a new product with compelling features that warrants a re-purchase …a model which somehow worked in the past before the age of IT entitlement.)

I also noticed the suck on my wallet from ios app makers completely vaporise once not owning the ipad pro anymore so there’s that too.

And what happens to Astropad if Apple DO add native support…apart from being screwed by Apple for doing a favour for their users that Apple themselves couldn’t be bothered with.

The lesson I learnt was to STOP buying products that don’t meet my basic needs even if there are great developers like Astropad doing their best to make them something more.

And yeah leasing/renting sucks and is only something I consider when purchasing something expensive (where I don’t have the money in-pocket/on-hand) like a house or maybe a car…an extended/mirrored display for my laptop…which stops working when i stop paying…sorry but it pushes the relationship too far.


#15

I totally get where you’re coming from. The business model essentially relies on Apple staying lazy in this department.

I actually didn’t start getting into digital art until the first iPad Pro was released, and then it was pretty much just Procreate. Now that Ive gotten into using Photoshop, Astropad was the best alternative I had. One day, I’ll have a beautiful Cintiq Pro of my own.

Anyway, this whole thing is just a rumor. I wouldn’t give it much more weight than that. Who knows though, maybe Apple will shock us all this year (not holding my breath).


#16

Yeah I’d actually consider buying an ipad ‘pro’ again if the tethering was native…just a shame it would also likely mean the Astropad folks getting shafted in the process.

Mind you products with ‘subscription only’ options really do test and impact my loyalty in the negative.


#17

Apple has “shafted” many an IOS developer over the years, so don’t think they wouldn’t do it to Astropad.